[lfs-support] Newbie need help - bus error in 5.5. GCC-4.8.1 - Pass 1

Ken Moffat zarniwhoop at ntlworld.com
Wed Oct 23 17:40:24 PDT 2013


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 07:14:15PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> Dear Ken, I am sure that this is no memory problem. I have absolutely full
> totally new memory chipset in my laptop, and all programs work very good,
> both in my Sabayon (because I use not Gentoo, but Sabayon) and my old
> Ubuntu 11.10 distro in an other partition.
> 
> Okay, I try the LFS with any other host distro. Make a suggestion to me,
> please, which distro would be good for this procedure? No LiveCD please, I
> have an empty almost 100 GB partitio for the host system. Please propose a
> distro which has MC... I CAN use the commandline without MC, good, but WITH
> mc it is much easyer and faster. I am not profi in the Linux, but no
> beginner. Maybe "power user". I can write not too difficult bash scripts,
> can programming in C/C++ (and a little bit in assembly...), my preferred
> window manager is the DWM, but I am newbie in the LFS, because I not
> understand good how the "configure", the "make", "autoconf", "automake"
>  and the linker work, not know they's syntax, etc. I am in the Linux
> autodidact, self-educated, I was never learned it in any school or training
> course. Actually/as a matter of fact, I was begin the LFS even just exactly
> because I would like to know FULLY, how a Linux system work, and because I
> very not like the bloatware distros (named *buntu, etc) with lot of (for
> me) superfluous programs. I like, agree, approve the
> suckless.orgphilosophy. I like the commandline and the
> commandline-based programs (and
> ncurses). But sorry, I not have a good "mentor"... Thus, what host distro
> do you suggest for me, which work good (tested) sure to this LFS?
> 
> Zoli
> 

 I've no idea which distro would suit you.  But whatever you use,
100GB is excessively large for a system.  Many people will put the
user's files in /home on a separate partition.  Some people will
put other data files (e.g. audio-video) on a separate partition.
You can always reinstall a distro if it gets trashed, but you are
the only one who can preserve and back-up your own data.

 Debian and debian-derived distros (ubuntu, mint) may be missing a
few things (e.g. they might have mawk instead of gawk, and /bin/sh
might be symlinked to dash - both these things can be fixed).
Distros like Arch and fedora might be too bleeding edge (i.e. newer
than what we have tested), but I will be surprised if they cause
many problems (I'm assuming that systemd doesn't cause a problem in
building LFS - I've never used it, and have no plans to).

 MC is not something I like, so I've no idea which distros use it.

 The one benefit to a distro is that it should set up your hardware
properly.  Nowadays many things just work, but older or very new
hardware can have problems.  Wifi can be a problem, and occasionally
graphics are also a problem.  Suspend/hibernate also.  If you can
find a distro which suits you, you can use it to examine desktops
and different desktop applications.  I assume that debian has the
widest range of these.

 Once you have a usable (for you) desktop, you will (I hope) find
that using a graphical browser such as firefox is the easiest way to
search for solutions to problems, and you will also be able to try
putting multiple terms on the same desktop (if your screen is big
enough) - I guess that kde, gnome, and unity (ubuntu) are probably
not very good for multiple terms on the same desktop.  Seriously,
a desktop configured the way you like it, with multiple terms, is
the most productive way to write scripts or code IMHO.

 I'd better not forget to mention Slackware.

 You might do best to spend a few weeks playing around with
different distros - for normal use, I guess that 10GB is plenty for
a system, but you may have trouble getting multiple distros to play
nicely with each other - particularly when setting up grub, but also
the user and group IDs.

ĸen
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