[lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found
beesnees at grm.net
Tue Nov 26 09:18:41 PST 2013
On 11/26/2013 10:34 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Simon Geard wrote:
>> On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 20:18 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>> I know the answer to that one. To ensure that really big iron with many
>>> ethernet devices will not have ethx assigned in random order due to race
>>> conditions. It probably comes up more frequently when using systemd
>>> which launches processes during boot up in parallel.
>>> In other words, a solution for the 1% that need it forced on the 99% who
>> But really, what's wrong with it? All the melodrama, talking about
>> "abominations" and complaining about Lennart breaking things - but
>> what's actually wrong with it, that makes that 1% solution a problem for
> It's more complex. It's changing something for everybody that was
> working for 99% of users.
> I suppose for most users that install a mainstream distro it doesn't
> make any difference, but for most of us that build from source, it is an
> unneeded change to the default that we have to work around.
> I wouldn't have minded the change if the new behavior wasn't made the
>> Because it's not something I'd even notice - I've no idea what the
>> network device on this machine is called, because I've never needed to
>> know it, other than when I first set it up an age ago. What do you do
>> differently, that the new naming convention can annoy you so much?
> In LFS, the /etc/sysconfig/ifconfog.* files need to know the name of the
> interface. Usually the init-net-rules.sh script takes care of it, but
> in this thread there was a difference between what Fedora comes up with
> and what a current udev names the interface. It was painful for Alan to
> get things straight.
> -- Bruce
FWIW, I agree with Bruce. I did an abbreviated document search the
results of which are in cyberspace right now to the list. I also agree
with Simon. I don't care what my card is named, I just want it to work.
From my short research I learned that this "name thing" was done for
system administrators who couldn't consistently name all the items in
their system. As Bruce says, this is the vast minority of users.
Therefore, I think that instead of turning this behavior off, it might
be better to be able to turn it on for those who need it.
From what I read, this became the default for UDEV at least 18 months
ago. If the changes that LFS makes to UDEV upon extracting it from
systemd change this behavior, I don't know how Alan achieved naming his
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