Stuck at 5.7.1

Johnneylee Rollins johnneylee.rollins at
Sat Jan 9 09:12:09 PST 2010

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Mikie <kmb at> wrote:
> I'm one that stands on the same side of the fence as Bruce (and every
> other contributor to this thread, I believe) in that the focus of the
> book is meant to be educational, and a minimum knowledge of Linux/Unix
> is expected. Total newbies need not apply. :-)
> [K. Mike Bradley] Agreed
> If you don't fit that description, then LFS is not for you. I've sat
> silent listening to this thread and have come to the conclusion that
> you do not understand the concept of LFS, hence your disappointment
> in its ability to "reach people". Hey, we just agree to disagree on the
> purpose and intent of the book! No big deal!
> [K. Mike Bradley] I am not a newbie to Linux ... just a newbie to
> building Linux
> LFS is not meant as something people "use" for everyday use (though it
> can be used that way). LFS is a learning tool that also builds a
> helluva good operating system. Take advantage of the purpose of the
> project, you'll be glad you did.
> [K. Mike Bradley] I have built LFS twice successfully.
> I don't think I learned a damned thing each time.
> It's just rot  stuff ... do this ... do that.
> I am a professional trainer and I know how to teach better than most
> trainers.
> LFS fails to teach.
> Part of the reason it does is because it is too overwhelming to the
> average crowd of Linux users.
> Too much time is wasted in fixing the host and getting thru CH 5 to get
> an independent tool chain.
> I stand by my statement that having a simpler book (maybe in addition to
> the existing) which provides a LiveCD would be better for those new to
> building Linux.
> We need to see how the operating system goes together first before we
> get into more complex tasks such as building an independent tool chain.
> I have found some articles which will help me understand the components
> of Linux and how to make them.
> I am abandoning LFS for now.
> QED.
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Something about his tone makes me not terribly distraught at his abandonement.
Mike, I wish you all the luck in finding a easy button in linux, or
whatever it is you're looking for mate.


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