You've lost me. Are you not using the 6.5 book ? (sections 4.4, 5.5, 5.6, 5.7) ĸen -- [K. Mike Bradley] Yes of course. I am using a LiveCD Ubuntu 9.10 desktop version as my host to make LFS. I boot to this and then: sudo passwd ubuntu 1234 1234 sudo apt-get install ssh Then I logon as user "ubuntu" from my Windows PC, via putty, so I can edit cut and paste commands.