Can't Boot Without Boot Disk--Bios Hosed?

Wit WitlessIdiot at triad.rr.com
Tue Jan 13 10:30:06 PST 2009


Greg van Slageren wrote:
> <snip>

> Hi Wit,
> 'bootit ng' is similar to OS/2's boot manager in that it resides
> in its own single track partition (8MB). Its not a Linux package
> and probably would not interest those who prefer to maintain a 100%
> Linux system. As such it probably should not be discussed here. But...

Well, LFS is really a "Linux/GNU" system, IIRC. Since much more than the 
kernel is involved in a system, there is no "pure" Linux system. So 
discussion of anything that gets things going seems appropriate to me.

Plus, "Your system ..." also allows for that.

>  
> Since I deal with several different os's (Linux and non-Linux) on my pc,
> i use this as a single solution to my boot and backup/restore process.
>  
> Once i've selected which Linux partition to boot, the Linux grub loader
> goes through its standard process within that partition, to load and start
> the kernel. The advantage of this is that each os is installed and maintained
> within its own partition(s) and no OS touchs the MBR as this is maintaind by
> bootit ng. Many os's 'fight' over the management of the MBR and as such
> cause many problems for beginners.

Geez. Sounds so rational, there must be something wrong with that 
scenario?  ;-)

OH! I know what it is. It fails to satisfy the "bigot" gene. UNIX 
bigots, Linux bigots, ... will all have objections to it.

>  
> My pc looks like:
> hda1    bootit ng                  8Mb
> hda2    eCom Station (OS/2)        2Gb
> hda3    QNX                        2Gb
> hda4    XP                        60Gb
>  
> hdb1   Linux LFS 6.4              20Gb
> hdb2   Linux OpenSuse 11.1        20Gb
> hdb3   Linux LFS/BLFS 6.3         20Gb
> hdb4   Linux Swap                  4Mb
>  
> For those who prefer to remain 100% Linux then GParted is probably the better
> option. As it can be built along the standard BLFS process.

IIRC, it's not Linux, but GNU? I've not looked for a long time, so I 
might be wrong.

>  
> As for the learning curve it is fairly simple to setup and use. Have a look at 
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm

I'm gonna do it. I'm getting ready to convert my laptop and I'd like to 
keep a _small_ Winblows on it for various reasons. Bootit ng sounds like 
it will fit the bill.

Before anyone jumps in and hollers that I can do it with Grub and LILO, 
I know. I'm very comfortable with both and in a prior LFS life had 
multiple versions of LFS and Windows bootable from any HD on the 
systems. But it did take a little work and a lot of care when making 
changes. Bootit ng sounds superior.

>  
> Greg

Thank you Greg for the time you've taken to discuss this.

-- 
Wit



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