backup lfs 6.2 to dvd?

yardcat at yardcat at
Wed Oct 11 06:14:37 PDT 2006

Thank you, Alan , Alexander and Luca,
Some great tips. With your information I feel quite a bit more confident in backing up my work. I look forward to the progress in your project, Luca, good luck.

Thanks, Arden

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Luca <liliana.perossa at>
> Alexander Stellwag wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:07:34PM -0700, Arden wrote:
> >   
> >> After building and successfully booting LFS 6.2  I would like to
> >> backup the system I have made so far. If I burn a copy of the system
> >> onto a dvd can it be restored without any special problems? will
> >> everything copy successfully? I have never done this before and if
> >> anyone has any 
> >> advice I would really appreciate. thanks Arden
> >>     
> >
> > Have a look at this hint:
> >
> >
> > It does not exactly what you want but it might be a starting point.
> >
> > Apart from that: I usually do the following after "major upgrades":
> >
> > - boot the final system via LFS Live-CD
> > - mount all filesystems unter /mnt (except proc, sys, dev/pts)
> > - tar up /mnt using "tar cfpjv /some/other/path/lfs.tar.bz2 /mnt/*"
> > - burn the tarball onto DVD.
> >
> > This makes shure that everything gets copied and that all the file and
> > directory permissions are set up right.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Alex
> >   
> Hi Arden!
> Yesterday I talked with Alexander on a project I am working on to create
> {C,H,L,B}FS Live/Installation CDs and maybe DVD images. As I said it
> takes a lot of time to work upon, cause it takes care of all the
> dependencies (something like ALFS project} and I don't really know when
> I put this project on fire to see it if works correcly, it should then
> pass a lot of testing and then finally I have to talk again with the
> original developer. As I said to Alexander I'll post on livecd mailing
> list the work in progress, results of tests, etc...
> Feel free to email me directly.
> Bye,
> Luca
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I concur with your concerns over this technology. It seems to me that this could very easily be a beta-test for software that the government will then begin to use to search through the mass of information that that the NSA collects every day on millions of Americans. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned in this discussion is an old intelligence adage that goes basically like this, "You need to base your threat analyses on capabilities not intentions." So, from a threat to civil liberties viewpoint, this program represents a potential huge step forward in the ability of the U.S. Government to monitor the communications of its citizens and automatically flag anything that "looks like a threat". When one then adds the law that Congress just passed concerning who may be declared an "illegal enemy combatant" (which now includes U.S. citizens) our government now has the capability to monitor our email or other electronic communication, analyse it with software which no one will know 
anything about regarding false-positive rates, failure modes, etc., then use that analysis to declare a citizen to be a "threat" and thus an "illegal enemy combatant", then arrest that person, strip them of their civil liberties, and turn them over to the gentle care of military tribunals which may, at the discretion of the tribunal judge, allow the use of "coerced self-incriminatory testimony". Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this sounds an awful lot like Orwell's description of the the functions of the "Thought Police" in "1984".

Just my $.02,

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