Thunderbird users: an extension to combat those who don't trim their replies
zhouhui at wam.umd.edu
Fri Feb 4 08:25:22 PST 2005
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 03:56:13PM +0000, Bennett Todd wrote:
>2005-02-04T15:31:44 Hui Zhou:
>> >>So we should encourage not trimming quotes this time then? So
>> >>there will be no context lost.
>Well, lots of people doing that would certainly cut down on the
>apparent volume of this list, as more and more inconsiderate oafs
>> Well, until all the other mail reader catch up ...
>A mail reader can't compensate for an inconsiderate poster; trimming
>quotes can be done effectively only by someone who is considering
>the details of just what bits they're responding to, the rhythm of
>the dialogue, and so on.
>A poster without the wit and willingness to do that can be plonked
>with confidence that you'll lose nothing of value.
I generally agree with you and would voice the same advice. However, I
do find my self lose context from time to time on reading discussions
and find many redfaced quick talking partially due to context
misunderstanding. So I generally keep the whole thread in my mutt
active inbox for those interested topics and find myself frequent
needs to rereading earlier post on half-missing quotes. Although I
wouldn't dare to say that here, personally I feel I would rather see
people do conservative trimming on reply and preserve as much
*relative* context as possible. I do not do archiving and only save
interested posts, so duplicated text never seem to be too much a
problem (compare to my tv show archive!); I use mutt in fullscreen
mode with color coding, reading long posts and find relative sentences
and jump back and forth is really comfortable. If most post preserves
most relative ccntext, there is little need for me preserve the whole
thread. The mutt's thread function doesn't provide much help on
situations where a thread contains multiple sub threads and deeper. I
guess no any mail reader have better thread functions yet. I guess
that is the reason ppl hate long threads -- too much context loss and
I always loved long threads. When I seaching google groups, I always
hope to hit uppon a 100-post-thread where every aspects of the problem
been beat to death.
So personally, I think thunderbird's effort on handling the quotes is
a very good direction for mail readers to catchup.
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