Order problem

Petersen Liman rabbit8888 at gmail.com
Thu May 13 13:18:59 PDT 2010


On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:44 AM, robert baker <robertmbaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> As of right now there is no target date for completion on any part of
> the project. I am focused on completing the temporary tools first.
> Once the temporary tools are in order I will be shifting focus toward
> testing and completing the bootable temporary tools. From there final
> system work will be the next step.
>
> If I had to guess I am looking at about 15 to 20 man hours left on
> temporary tools. Most of that is devoted to ensuring the gcc and glibc
> patching is exactly where we want it.
>
> I am hoping that the bootable temporary tools needs very little work,
> but I need to go back over it to check completeness.
>
> I cannot even give an estimate on final system hour requirements until
> I have time to get my eyes on any issues that may present themselves.
> If all goes well I should be better positioned to assess your question
> in a couple of weeks.
>
> RBaker
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Petersen Liman <rabbit8888 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM, robert baker <robertmbaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On the web its:
>>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hlfs/view/unstable/temporary_system/index.txt
>>>
>>> If you snag it from SVN make sure you get the onward branch, and it's
>>> in temporary_system/index.txt
>>>
>>> Right now the most of the temporary tools should build to completion.
>>> I have yet to bump package versions, but my working copy is functional
>>> using gcc-4.4.3 glibc-2.11.1 and grub-1.98.
>>>
>>> In order to get packages built with fortify source enabled by default use:
>>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~rbaker/gcc-4.4.3-fortify_source.diff
>>>
>>> This patch will work with both the gcc version currently in the book,
>>> and gcc-4.4.3.
>>>
>>> Also if you plan to build xz I found I needed to add a sed command
>>> after the configure script because of a failure to use -fpic. The sed
>>> command is below:
>>>
>>> cp -v src/liblzma/Makefile{,.orig} &&
>>> sed 's/CPPFLAGS = /CPPFLAGS = -fpic/' \
>>>        src/liblzma/Makefile.orig > src/liblzma/Makefile
>>>
>>> After further testing and consideration I may add this to the book. I
>>> say may because I am not entirely certain xz is necessary in the base
>>> system. Considering all the packages can be found in either bzips or
>>> gzips.
>>>
>>> Furthermore there is iirc a problem building libcap. Probably another
>>> textrel, but I would rather use libcap-ng as it is still being
>>> maintained. There is some discussion to have there though because
>>> libcap-ng requires python.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Petersen Liman <rabbit8888 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:27 AM, robert baker <robertmbaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> There is an index page that gives the build order.
>>>>>
>>>>> After we reach some level of stability I am toying with the idea of
>>>>> returning to the XML book like the rest of the projects. As it stands
>>>>> right now I have completed about 95% of the work I wanted to do on the
>>>>> temporary tools. I should get some more work in over the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> RBaker
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Petersen Liman <rabbit8888 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I think we may need the package order sorted like the previous HLFS
>>>>>> and LFS because new users may not be able to use HLFS without a
>>>>>> package order on which packages to build first and last.
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>>>> OK i just need to know wheres the index page so i can try the new
>>>> format out right now.
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>> Ok my last one is when is the final-system going to be done so i can
>> complete a test build?
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OK, ill just doo the testing on the temp and the rest thats working.



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