Onward branch

Chris Buxton cbuxton at menandmice.com
Thu Sep 11 17:30:08 PDT 2008

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I like what I'm reading here. Let me know if there's anything I can  
test for you.

Chris Buxton
Professional Services
Men & Mice

On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:14 PM, Robert Connolly wrote:

> I haven't started writting the new book because I'm still working on  
> a couple
> things...
> Toolchain:
> I tried gcc41, gcc42, gcc43, binutils-2.18, and  
> binutils-, with
> glibc-2.8 and glibc-20080901. The newest toolchain I could get  
> working,
> without test suite errors, without patches, is gcc42 with
> binutils-
> Both glibc-2.8 and glibc-cvs have some test suite bugs that test  
> glibc's
> programs/libraries installed in /, so 'make install' needs to be run
> before 'make check'. There is no complete patch to fix this.  
> Installing
> before testing is a workaround, and I don't see it as a serious  
> problem
> because we're still testing the glibc we just installed.
> gcc43 causes one math error in glibc's tests. I'm guessing it's a  
> bug in gcc,
> and not glibc.
> Gcc41, gcc42, and gcc43, produce math errors in glibc's tests with  
> various
> optimizations, such as -mtune=i686 (gcc's default), and -O3
> (from --enable-omitfp). My best results were always
> with '-march=i486 -mtune=i486' (--with-arch=i486 --with-cpu=i486 when
> building gcc). Glibc's test suite may test gcc's math precision  
> better than
> other packages which depend on it, so I think it's best to avoid these
> optimizations, including disabling them in packages which use them  
> by default
> (like openssl using -O3), at risk of losing math precision.
> Binutils recently started a 2.19 cvs branch, so a new release should  
> be near.
> This Binutils depends on Zlib to pass tests, but is not necessarily  
> needed
> in /tools because so far nothing uses the compression features from  
> Binutils.
> Zlib will need to be installed before Binutils in the final system  
> though.
> For the new book I want to use cvs snapshots of stable branches,  
> when they are
> available. Glibc-2.8-cvs is in tarballs at sources.redhat.com,  
> gcc-4.2-cvs
> snapshots are at gcc.gnu.org. So far no one is packaging
> binutils-stable_branch, but it might happen. Or, these can be  
> downloaded with
> cvs/svn on the host system and packaged ourselves.
> Packages:
> Some daemons still run as root, even with privilege separation, like  
> fcron,
> dhclient, etc. The kernel/linux capabilities of these processes can be
> dropped, but the uid is still 0. If root owns everything in /bin, / 
> usr, and
> so on, then these processes still have permission to modify or  
> replace core
> system files. Installing packages as regular users would limit this,  
> so I
> think it'd be a good idea to integrate the  
> more_control_and_pkg_man.txt in
> the final system. This hint is about 3 years old, so it may need some
> adjustments.
> robert
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