Integrated crypto

Gareth Westwood gareth at
Tue Mar 30 01:13:42 PST 2004

keithmo wrote:
> Here's an interesting technique for extracting entropy from air
> turbulence in disk drives:
> or Linux's /dev/random uses
> disk timings as one source of entropy for its pool, so it indirectly
> uses this technique already.
> Of course, as Robert said, this doesn't help the diskless systems.
> Imagine a headless, diskless server used as a compute node in a cluster.
> The only source of entropy would be from the network. This would be an
> unacceptably lame source.
> Another problem with diskless systems: They have no place to save a
> random seed between reboots. This means they always boot into exactly
> the same machine state. (Cluster administrators tend to think this is a
> great "feature", and it probably is in many ways.)

Is this a _realy_ bad thing or a bad thing or an annoying thing? Just 
wondering because I am working on a headless system which is accessed 
totaly over a ssh session. Only power and network connected into the back.
> With the recent growth of relatively inexpensive clusters, I think this
> must be a solved problem. A bit of searching on Google was less than
> encouraging. The general consensus seems to be "some systems have
> practically zero entropy -- use a hardware RNG".
> KM

Gareth Westwood
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