archaic at indy.rr.com
Wed Mar 10 18:24:38 PST 2004
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:09:46PM +0000, Ian Molton wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:17:43 -0600
> Dagmar d'Surreal <dagmar.wants at nospam.com> wrote:
> > While it's a nice feature, our "trusted" system
> > doesn't need to be able to replicate itself because that's a feature
> > of a developers platform.
> If it cant reproduce itself its buggy and a buggy base is
> impossible to build a secure system on top of, ESPECIALLY when that bug
> lies in the toolchain and the utilities used to build it.
I'm with Robert and Ian on this one. The building of ssp/pie is a
delicate thing. Originally we wanted to be able to assume a chapter 5
vanilla LFS set of tools, but that didn't allow for correct building. If
a chap5 wasn't a good host, the a complete chapter6 wasn't a good host.
Then you have to ask... if LFS isn't a good host, what is? The only
answer was one already equipped with ssp/pie, hence our problems with
hosts and rebuildability.
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