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bruce.dubbs at gmail.com
Mon Nov 12 09:56:10 PST 2012
Simon Geard wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-11-11 at 10:56 +0100, Armin K. wrote:
>> I have no problems with it either, but LFS/BLFS people seem to reject
>> systemd (for now).
> Understandable. I like the concept, but it's not exactly ideal from the
> point of view of a project trying to teach people how their system works
> - the traditional shell scripts might be kind of messy, but they're much
> more transparent. And of course, it's not all that hard (last time I
> tried, at least) to convert an LFS system to systemd.
What advantages does systemd give?
Binary logs? That's a little difficult to work with if Xorg isn't
working. How do you grep a binary log?
cgroups? What advantages does that give to a single user workstation?
A dedicated LAMP server? Factor those systems out and how many systems
Fast bootup? I've got my system down to less than 8 seconds. Shutdown
is about 4 seconds. The reason for commercial system boot problems is
because they want one system to boot any hardware. That means hundreds
(thousands?) of modules. Note that boot time is also a function of
hardware. On a virtual system like kvm, boot time from grub to login
prompt is about 2 seconds!
When I complained once about systemd on a list that the devs read, they
asked why there was a problem understanding systemd. After all there
was 100 pages of documentation. I replied that that problem was that
100 pages of documentation were needed.
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