PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)
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Fri Apr 7 12:00:21 PDT 2006
On 4/7/06, Randy McMurchy <randy at linuxfromscratch.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 13:20 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > Thanks Dan. It is interesting, but I'm not sure where to go with this
> > right now.
> Can of worms!
I'm not proposing adding pam_console to the book. Just put it out
there for information sake.
I've been following this stuff off and on for a few weeks now. I
can't say that using pam_console is necessary or not. I know debian
will be using the new fangled gnome stuff, but not pam_console. I
might be wrong, but I think if you have appropriate udev rules and
groups, it won't be needed. pam_console allows you to change
permissions for things at login and logout, which means you can lock
down devices for individual users.
> Not sure what do about this HAL/D-Bus thing. Best I can tell GNOME
> 2.14.0 wants the bleeding edge HAL/D-Bus. Gnome-VFS wants HAL-0.5.7.
> This is the latest and greatest HAL release. KDE works *great* with
Here's why for gnome-vfs:
2006-03-02 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com>
* configure.in: Require hal 0.5.7 for new crypto bits in
* libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-hal-mounts.c: Don't read settings from
/system/storage and remove code that uses it. Also use new API
available in libhal-storage 0.5.7 and later instead of relying on
a magic hal property volume.crypto_luks.clear.backing_volume.
> I mean it works really great. I'm speaking of automounting devices,
> and providing a front-end that is actually *easy* to use with plug-in
In terms of auto-mounting, etc., gnome-mount and gnome-volume-manager
look like they will be super-cool and use HAL to its' fullest. David
Zeuthen, one of the HAL developers, also works on gnome-mount,
gnome-volume-manager and gnome-power-manager. I haven't finished
building them yet, but they look neat-o. This guy is definitely
driving the rapid changes in HAL.
> I just don't see how KDE could work with the old, and the new API/ABI.
> But I am just speculating.
> I would hate to see KDE's functionality be diminished by the newer
> HAL/D-Bus. Only time will tell.
That's a good question that needs to be pursued. I don't follow KDE
at all, so I wouldn't know where to look for this info. Do you know
which KDE applications use HAL? Do you need to build the Qt bindings
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